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EVERYWHERE IN MEXICO: NOTE: For those of you who have been dealing with people who claim to be working with AMDETUR or PROFECO related to a (phony) government fund to recompense victims of timeshare fraud, those two agencies have confirmed that they are not, repeat NOT, affiliated in any way to such a fund. The scammers are using the agencies’ names, logos, etc. without authorization. (See AMDETUR’s warning, posted on its Facebook page and on its website, in this attached pic.) THERE IS NO SUCH FUND.
I think we’re starting to make some headway against those scammers. Not enough and not fast enough, but some. ADG Realty & Services and H&M Title Agency in particular are still wreaking havoc, but I suspect they’ll soon abandon those names and start up again using new ones, if they haven’t already.
I recently received a plaintive cry for help from someone asking how can they know who to believe, me or them? The answer is simple.
Don’t believe me, believe the research I’ve done and the warnings from AMDETUR, PROFECO, and people who have already been victimized. If you believe what I have reported, if you believe my research has been exhaustive, then it will not cost you one red cent. You get all of that for free. I’m not asking for anything from you.
If, on the other hand, you choose to believe the elaborate scam those thieves have set up it will cost you a great deal and you’ll never see that money again.
Weigh your options carefully. Are you willing to take that gamble with your hard earned money?
This week I’m going to share some emails I’ve received about the various scams, mostly for the sake of those who can be helped more by hearing other people’s experiences.
(1) Good Morning. Just wanted to give an update on my dealings with the man who said he was from Amdetur. Finished with him. I did use the phone number and e-mail address you supplied to me and phoned Amdetur to talk with them. They say they are going to take legal action and I volunteered to send them all my documents – they said, please do, which I did this morning.
I have contacted shcp,gob.mx to ask if they are involved with the company who say they are going to get my money back from Belaire – U Resorts. The company’s e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org and they are using SHCP letterhead, Profeco letterhead, SAT forms, as well as Bancomer where they say my money is sitting and where they want me to forward $34,000.00 before they release my money. … Interestingly – for your information, they have forwarded to me copies of ALL my documents as we dealt with Belaire, even some that I didn’t have a copy of – they say they got them from Profeco. This tells me it is an inside job or as you mentioned someone who had access to, and sold them. They are saying they are dealing with 41 buy backs.
I hope this will give you a little info that will stop other people from being scammed. You sure have been a BIG help to me. Thanks so much again.
Their claim to have gotten those documents from PROFECO is a big fat lie; don’t believe it for a minute if they tell you something like that. And if YOU want to contact AMDETUR to check things out for yourself or to report the fraud, here’s how. The real phone numbers for AMDETUR, according to their website (http://www.amdetur.org.mx/), are 011 52 55 5488-2028 (or 2029, 2030 and 2031) when calling from the USA or Canada. Their contact person is Rosa de Jesus Lugo and her email address is email@example.com
(2) ADG and H&M Title. My husband and I just realized that we were scammed by this company.
Is there any legal recourse we can take?
And yes, this all started in January 2014.
Thanks for any help you can give us
There’s little legal recourse for you that will help in the short term. The best idea is to file a complaint with the FBI, your state’s Attorney General and the Attorney General in Georgia (since that’s where these particular scammers are pretending to be located). Be prepared to send copies of all your documents. The aim here is to start the investigation ball rolling, because no action will be taken if the authorities don’t know what’s going on.
(3) ADG and HM Title agency: I just read your on line post. I have been scammed by these people recently and can’t believe I fell for it. I feel like an idiot. I have some other names I want to give you to add to your site and want to discuss other things I have learned in trying to get my money back. Please let me know when you have a few minutes to talk? Thanks.
I’m in the process of contacting that person; hopefully I’ll have more to report next week.
(4) Dear Sirs,we were made an offer to buy our timeshare for 5 times what we paid for it by Strelitz and Brooks from Charlotte NC and they want me to wire $25000 to a bank in Mexico. Can you give me a address where i can report them so someone will not be suckered by them.
You bet. Call the FBI and the Attorney General in North Carolina and report the scam. You might also consider contacting your local TV and/or newspaper; a report on the scams using such media outlets will reach a larger audience.
And here’s the big one:
(5) I offer the following in hopes that it might assist others in avoiding this latest timeshare scam:
I was recently called by a Mexican lawyer who works for Profeco, a division of the Mexican government dedicated to eliminating fraud with regard to timeshares. He was going to return timeshare fraud money to me and assured me there would be no upfront fee for his help in getting all of the money that I had spent on timeshares in Mexico back to me. He requested very little information or documentation from me and in just a couple of days emailed to me a copy of the court’s decision to return more than double that which I had lost. He also emailed to me a couple of documents from the Banco de Mexico showing the breakdown of the monies to be returned to me.
At this point he explained that I would have to send a bank wire to a Banco de Mexico special account an amount equal to 8% of the money to be rewarded by the court. Of course, this was money that would be returned with the settlement money so it was not “up front” money. I knew this was a scam but I played along to see where it would go. I explained that I was skeptical and it made no sense to me to put my money at risk in order to receive the judgement monies. They said it was the court’s decision and there was nothing they could do about it. They had the bank call me and I could tell this was a phoney official at the bank, but I still played along. Finally, I told them that I knew I was being scammed and I did not wish further contact. They continued to call me and insisted that I was being overly cautious and paranoid, etc, because of my previous losses. They were getting nowhere with me so they had their supervisors call me. Same story but in a more convincing and calm manner.
These people were quite good at deception and side-stepping the truth. The documents appeared to be completely authentic. They showed me their names on legal websites, and the bank girl’s name was listed as a director on the bank’s registrations. Obviously, this was identity theft for their purposes. They covered all the bases. They even lowered the 8% to 4% to entice me to send the bank wire. Of course I did not, but I must admit that they were so good at what they were doing that it was a temptation to believe them. They will continue to call me and I will continue to let them know that I am on to them. Eventually they will stop. Thank you for the information you have provided. What you have written totally confirms that which I believed after the first few contacts with them, but I was not certain. Now I am certain. Thank you again.
The scammers are also ripping off Mexican timeshare owners and owners/members from as far away as the United Kingdom, so this truly is an International situation.
That’s enough for this week. But watch this space for more to come.
IF ANY OF THE ABOVE SCENARIOS APPLIES TO YOU, BE AWARE THAT YOU ARE BEING (OR HAVE ALREADY BEEN) SCAMMED.
- Someone contacts you and tells you they have a buyer for your Mexican timeshare who is willing to pay you more than you originally paid for it OR they want to RENT it out for a lovely price. THE TRUTH: Sorry, but no one is going to purchase your timeshare for anything near what you paid.
- Someone contacts you saying some branch of the Mexican Government has set up a fund to reimburse victims of timeshare fraud in Mexico, and you’re one of the lucky ones. THE TRUTH: There is no such fund! It is a bald-faced lie, no matter how legitimate their documents look!
- AND THE BIGGEST RED FLAG: YOU ARE ASKED TO BANK WIRE FUNDS TO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT IN MEXICO (OR SOME OTHER COUNTRY) TO PAY FOR SOME SORT OF FEES AND/OR TAXES. THE TRUTH: The “escrow account” is fraudulent; the fees/taxes are fraudulent; once you wire the money you will never get it back.
NOTE that regardless of the details (names, locations, etc.) the basics of this scam are always the same
with the end result being YOU bank wiring funds to a Mexican bank in the belief that you are paying some sort of tax or fee in order to complete the sale of your timeshare
(or, more recently, to release funds from a phony baloney government
remuneration fund). DON’T FALL FOR IT! NEVER BANK WIRE FUNDS TO MEXICO OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY!
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
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